I hold the Title, and it ain't no Pink Slip

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8 USC Sec. 1408 01/03/2007

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TITLE 8 - ALIENS AND NATIONALITY
CHAPTER 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY
SUBCHAPTER III - NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION
Part I - Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization

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Sec. 1408. Nationals but not citizens of the United States at birth

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Unless otherwise provided in section 1401 of this title, the
following shall be nationals, but not citizens, of the United
States at birth:
(1) A person born in an outlying possession of the United States
on or after the date of formal acquisition of such possession;
(2) A person born outside the United States and its outlying
possessions of parents both of whom are nationals, but not
citizens, of the United States, and have had a residence in the
United States, or one of its outlying possessions prior to the
birth of such person;
(3) A person of unknown parentage found in an outlying possession
of the United States while under the age of five years, until
shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to
have been born in such outlying possession; and
(4) A person born outside the United States and its outlying
possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a
national, but not a citizen, of the United States who, prior to the
birth of such person, was physically present in the United States
or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not
less than seven years in any continuous period of ten years -
(A) during which the national parent was not outside the United
States or its outlying possessions for a continuous period of
more than one year, and
(B) at least five years of which were after attaining the age
of fourteen years.

The proviso of section 1401(g) of this title shall apply to the
national parent under this paragraph in the same manner as it
applies to the citizen parent under that section.

-SOURCE-
(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, Sec. 308, 66 Stat. 238;
Pub. L. 99-396, Sec. 15(a), Aug. 27, 1986, 100 Stat. 842; Pub. L.
100-525, Sec. 3(2), Oct. 24, 1988, 102 Stat. 2614.)


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AMENDMENTS
1988 - Par. (4). Pub. L. 100-525 amended Pub. L. 99-396. See 1986
Amendment note below.
1986 - Par. (4). Pub. L. 99-396, as amended by Pub. L. 100-525,
added par. (4).

EFFECTIVE DATE OF 1988 AMENDMENT
Section 3 of Pub. L. 100-525 provided that the amendment made by
that section is effective as if included in the enactment of Pub.
L. 99-396.

EFFECTIVE DATE OF 1986 AMENDMENT
Section 15(b) of Pub. L. 99-396 provided that: "The amendment
made by subsection (a) [amending this section] shall apply to
persons born before, on, or after the date of the enactment of this
Act [Aug. 27, 1986]. In the case of a person born before the date
of the enactment of this Act -
"(1) the status of a national of the United States shall not be
considered to be conferred upon the person until the date the
person establishes to the satisfaction of the Secretary of State
that the person meets the requirements of section 308(4) of the
Immigration and Nationality Act [par. (4) of this section], and
"(2) the person shall not be eligible to vote in any general
election in American Samoa earlier than January 1, 1987."

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Once Again. Barack Obama does NOT fit the category as a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, therefor he is NOT qualified to be President.

I fought the Law, and the Law Won

Recently, I began participating in a Room on PalTalk. It's interesting how the system works where only one person at a time can speak, unlike SkypeCast, where several could get very verbal. One room in particular covers the topic of the recent President Elect and his lack of documents to prove he is a Citizen of these great United States.

First off. I would like to make one thing perfectly clear. If, and that's a "Big IF", this man is a natural born citizen of the United States, he would have no problem proving it. I know if I were elected to the Highest Office in my Country (USA), I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's obvious he has something to hide.

Now, back to PalTalk.

I have listen in on a particular Chat Room for maybe a week. The longer I listened, the more ignorant people would sound. The three Gentlemen that had Admin control of the room had thier act together, but the participants were, how should I say it? Dumbshits! Hey, if the shoe fits, right? Anyway. I listen to these people argue back and forth, left and right about the law and citizenship to this great Country of ours. Needless to say, I had, had enough. Well, here is the LAW as it is written in STONE.

The 14th Amendment

If you're going to be involved in government in the United States, citizenship is a must. To be a Senator or Representative, you must be a citizen of the United States. To be President, not only must you be a citizen, but you must also be natural-born. Aside from participation in government, citizenship is an honor bestowed upon people by the citizenry of the United States when a non-citizen passes the required tests and submits to an oath.

Natural-born citizen

Who is a natural-born citizen?

Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday? The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

Anyone born inside the United States

Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe

Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. National

Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year

Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born.

Barack Obama DOES NOT fit into ANY of these catagories!

If he did, he would have no problem with proving himself a citizen. He obiously has something to hide.

Now, I made these points perfectly clear as I participated in the PalTalk Chat Room. I realy believe the one thing that irritates me the most is, people that come to the United States have to go through a long hard prosses to become a citizen. AND THEY DO IT WITH GREAT PRIDE! What makes me sick about the whole thing is the "Natural Born's" don't even know the first three word's to the freakin' Preamble.

If your going to shoot your mouth off about right and wrong, and throw the law around.........

YOU BETTER FREAKIN'KNOW THE LAW FIRST!

Comment's are welcome. If you would like more info, just ask. If it's one thing I know as a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA....

it's my CONSTITUTION.

So Far Left, I Can't Go Nowhere But Right

Here is an interesting conversation I had with an individual that says he is a Rabbi.

Note, I said, "He said" he was a Rabbi.

Situation. I posted a video supporting Sen. John McCain for President and sent it to my friends.

Here's what happened.........................

"Self-Proclaiming Rabbi":

-I'm not for McCain, please keep your filth off my page. (attached to this message was a video proclaiming jesus was a homosexual)

I dont believe in jesus either, but I do have to ask, what's wrong with McCain? Just wondering.

"Self-Proclaiming Rabbi":

I believe that regulating morality is a "pulpit cop-out" things such as abortion, gay marraige, etc should not be regulated by the government. It is our responsability as teachers and leaders to teach our congregants about right and wrong and not have government intervention on such matters...that is why I stick to the left in government and right in the synagogue.

Totally understand, but, its the Left in government that pushes Pro-Choice, Gay Marraige, etc.

And the Democrats have never done a thing to "help" Israel. You are correct that it is "Our" responsibility, but for those that do not live by Torah, need to be guided by law that reflects it.

"Self-Proclaiming Rabbi":

I am for pro choice, gay marriage...I DONT believe the government should make laws against them. I believe that it is a cop out from the pulpit which makes us want to regulate it when it should be US TEACHING our people to do the right thing, not rely on the government.

Okay...then as you say you are a Rebbe, you should know by Torah, these are against G-d's Commandment's.

I'm not trying to start anything here. Just wanting to understand your position.

"Self-Proclaiming Rabbi":

that guidance by law needs to come from the Synagoge and the Zals, not the secular government. If we teach people right we dont need government regulation. To me that is the Rabbis passing the buck.

But, Rabbi's are not the Authority in U.S.

"Self-Proclaiming Rabbi":

you missed my point. YES the Torah is against such things and the Sages expound on this in the Talmud (while there are some exceptions for Abortion) BUT it is not the governments place to regulate this. As a Rabbi or even as a Jew it is our place to teach our people to do the right thing and live morally, not the governments place ( esp a goy government) to regulate it. I think it is a pulpit cop out to have to rely on the government to regulate morality when we should be teaching our children and the members of our Shul to do the right thing regardless of if it is legal or not.

What is the law, of abortion, in Talmud? Not set by government, but by Rabbi's, teacher's, as you call yourself, and what is the law, in Talmud, on homosexual activity, not set by government, but by Rabbi's, teachers, as you say you are? According to you, you support Pro Choice, and gay marriage, how is this in keeping with Torah, and following the teachings of our Rabbi's, and Teachers, in Talmud? The moral set by Torah, and Talmud, are the morals you should be teaching your Shul. By supporting Gay marriage, and abortion, you are going against Torah, and Talmud, the very Word of G-d, and the teaching's of our most learned Rabbi's. What kind of a Shul do you belong to? It obviously is not Orthodox.

"Self-Proclaiming Rabbi":

AGAIN you miss the point. I AM NOT PRO ABORTION OR PRO HOMOSEXUAL Marraige, I AM just ANTI GOVERNMENT regulation of it. The more government is allowed to regulate morality the more dangerous it will become of us in the long run. We have Halakah and teach it and people understand what is right or wrong, it does not take the government to regulate such activites to have us understand that it is wrong...what dont you follow?

Now wait! You said.....quote......

I am for pro choice, gay marriage...I DONT believe the government should make laws against them. I believe that it is a cop out from the pulpit which makes us want to regulate it when it should be US TEACHING our people to do the right thing, not rely on the government.

Now you change your position?

Make up my mind.

"Self-Proclaiming Rabbi":

Rabbis and their congregants are using the government to do the job THEY should be doing. This is my point. I am afarid of government regulation of morality BUT I AM NOT FOR SUCH ACTIVITIES. The teaching of Torah and Morality is to be done in the Zal and not regulated by the government. WE need to be teaching people to do the right thing and why it is against the Law Hashem has given us, not banking on the government to make it illegal and to rely on them to teach the values expounded in the Torah.

Ok. But since when does Goy listen to a Jew on these thing's? They don't understand Torah beyond 10 Commandment's, nor do they even grasp that we have 613 Laws to govern us, and not even adding Talmud at this point, to which even most Jews don't live by.

"Self-Proclaiming Rabbi":

No, allow me to explain and make it a little more clear. I am for Pro-choice and pro-gay marriage in the respect that I dont believe the government should be making morality legal or illegal. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN ABORTION or GAY MARRIAGE but I am AGAINST the government regulating these activities because I believe that is the place of the pulpit. We should not rely on the government to teach morals and Laws from the TORAH, rather than rely on these acts being illegal we need to TEACH our people why these things are wrong and what they should or should not be doing.

I agree with you to an extent. You have to agree, we cant "make" people live by Torah. That is why we make a Government to create laws we request, in order to build a moral society.

"Self-Proclaiming Rabbi":

I understand that but all we can do is explain to them our positions on such things. You know, I believe that my "pulpit cop-out" extends beyond Judaism. Priests, Pastors, etc are using the government to make up for the fact that they do not do an appropriate job in teaching their congregants, Evangelicals, Catholics etc are pro life and anti gay marraige but they DONT DO a good job of teaching and explaining their faith to their people, they woudl rather rely on the government to pick up the slack and I dont believe this is the right way...it only takes a few regulations on Morality to lead down that slope...I am afraid of that.

this is my "pulpit cop-out" theory.

and by the way I hold no malice towards you I just want you to understand my position of OUR responsability to teach our synagogues the Torah and the truth.

I got you. The break down on this though is the old adage, "Separation Of Church And State".

"Self-Proclaiming Rabbi":

True, we can make people do anything by Laws but that does not make it right. Remember Hashem only askes for our sincere repentance when we have violated His Laws. One can not be sincere if they are simple "forced" to be moral by the laws of the government. It is only through teaching WHY we should be moral and WHY Hashem has graced us with his Torah and His laws that we will ever make a difference in this world and bring Moshiach.

And this is why we, as Jews, must live our lives as an example to those that live in immorality. We seem to be beating down the same path, but we differ in how the Government should be involved.

Are you a Reformed Rabbi?

Just wondering.

"Self-Proclaiming Rabbi":

It is. I happen to be afraid either way the election goes but the best I can do is to continune to live my life for Hashem. I wish you the best and I commend you on your site and your zeal for supporting McCain. May Hashem bless you.

Thanks, and just the same for your Zeal as well, but I do believe McCain is a man we can trust. Give the Government a chance. Remember, even though in modern time's, Israel is the youngest Country, the United States of America, is still having "Growing Pain's". Almost 6000 years verses our just over 225 year's, is a big difference.

"Self-Proclaiming Rabbi":

No, I grew up in a refom home but I became a Chabadnick after college. I recieved my semicah from a chabad yeshiva now I do outreach work to bring Jews back from evangelical christianity.

In closing, I would would like to point out, this "Self Proclaimed Rabbi" did a flip-flop three times reference his stance on Gay marriage, and abortion. For those of you that don't know, as an Orthodox Jew, Gay Marriage is WRONG, the only time abortion is allowed, is when the Mothers life is in danger, or when the pregnancy is a result of a rape. You will never find an Orthodox Jew that believes in Homosexuals, Gay Marriage, or Abortion. This so-called Rabbi claims to be a Kabbalist, teacher, and student of Hasidic Mystical Judaism according to his homepage, but he tells me, he was Reformed, then went to Chabad Yeshiva, were he received Semicah, after becoming Chabadnick. If you, the reader, are confused, you should be, as am I. I think I will drop a line to the Orthodox Union, and report this guy.

http://www.ou.org/
If he really is a Rabbi, and he teach's like this, he won't for long. I have no reason to believe this guy really is who he claims to be.

YouTube Fun

With all the current turmoil we all see in the world, it's good to have some kind of a "Get Away Spot". Everyone has a favorite activity. Mine is focus on my Family, and restoring my old truck. For a while, I have been a regular user of YouTube, but it has become quite a challenge to deal with some of the people in this sub-culture. I have produced facts on several different subjects, but in return to these simple truth's, I have experienced a new kind of "Hate". Digital Anti-Semetism. It floor's me that it run's so wild on YouTube. I have even felt the "Hate" from YouTube itself. Where is the justice in a hate group that posts videos about "Kill The Jew", with graphic footage, but the minute I post a video that shows Israel, or the United States defending itself against these radical ideal's, I'm in a world of trouble? It's almost, and I mean "almost", not worth it. But, if I give up, or give in, then the "Hate Monger's" win. As an American Soldier serving in my Nation's Military, I am here to say, giving in is not an option, and the word "defeat" is what I put in my Boot's.

I am sure there are others that have experienced this. If you have, how did you handle it? I would like to know.